@Renee
Roland You say: "I do not promote my view on hell bc it causes division and I focus on the gospel"
The gospel=good news is that those who are saved by God's undeserved gift of grace through faith alone in the atoning blood of JESUS and His resurrection from the dead will not perish, but have everlasting life, so they will not be cast into the lake of fire, but instead they will exist forever in God's presence and be happy forevermore on the new earth and in the New Jerusalem under a new heaven.
You believe we are saved from having to burn a short while and then eternal non-existence, and I believe we are saved from having to burn forever in God's lake of fire, which is His eternal wrath.
You believe that man is not immortal without JESUS and I know that those who will stand before the Great White Throne of God's Judgement will be resurrected from the dead, otherwise they could not be brought to justice.
Now how will this be possible?
Matthew 22:23-32 1599 Geneva Bible
23 The same day the Sadducees came to him, (which say that there is no resurrection) and asked him,
24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife by the right of alliance, and raise up seed unto his brother.
25 Now therefore were with us seven brethren, and the first married a wife, and deceased: and having no issue, left his wife unto his brother.
26 Likewise also the second, and the third, unto the seventh.
27 And last of all the woman died also.
28 Therefore in the resurrection, whose wife shall she be of the seven? for all had her.
29 Then Jesus answered, and said unto them, Ye are deceived, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry wives, nor wives are bestowed in marriage, but are as the Angels of God in heaven.
31 And concerning the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read what is spoken unto you of God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Angels have supernatural bodies.
Take for example the fallen angel Satan: it is certain that he will burn forever in the lake of fire, and the same goes for the other fallen angels.
Take for example the Antichrist and the False Prophet: they will be humans and it is certain that they will be cast into the lake of fire to burn forever.
Now you believe that they will burn a while and then cease to exist, which is called Annihilationism.
What kind of JUSTICE is that?
'Organic Robot' ( a sinister term for human beings, because we are not 'organic robots') is angry at God because 'there is a hell and some people will go there'.
Due to wrong translations there is a confusion about 'hell' and you said "hell itself is destroyed in the lake of fire"
Yes, that's what both the Geneva Bible and the King James Bible say:
Revelation 20:14 1599 Geneva Bible
14 And death, and hell were cast into the lake of fire: this is the second death.
Revelation 20:14 King James Version
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
BUT THIS IS WRONG!
This is a better translation of this verse:
Revelation 20:14 World English Bible
14 Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
In Dutch protestant Bibles the (translated into English) term 'realm of the dead' is used for what both the Geneva Bible and the King James Bible call 'hell' and what the World English Bible calls 'Hades'.
From WHAT FATE are we saved?
From having to DIE a second time and then an eternal non-existence?
Is that what JESUS suffered for at the cross (symbol of the satanic Babylonian Sun-god) and why he shed His sinless blood as God, manifested in the flesh, in order to save us from this fate?
Or did He save us from having to experience the eternal consequence of our REBELLION against Him?
This is NOT a NON-SALVATIONAL ISSUE, Renee, but an ESSENTIAL.
If I follow your doctrine then JESUS has saved me from NOTHING!
OF COURSE your view causes DIVISION because the majority of believers in the Bible and God-the Lord JESUS are AGAINST Annihilationism!
And in the past you didn't believe this way.
And now you claim that it was due to Roman Catholicism and pagan philosophy that people believe in the immortal soul.
So this means that when I was convinced I was on my way to hell=the realm of the dead I was convinced of that fact by the DEVIL, the inventor of the Catholic church and paganism?
And I didn't even believe in God, the devil or deities because I was an ATHEIST!
But I KNOW it was God who convinced me I was TOTALLY LOST, FOR EVER, shortly before JESUS SPOKE to me and RESCUED me!
Now suppose I believed back then what you believe, do you really believe I would have been convinced of God's EXISTENCE?
I was not only convinced I was LOST FOREVER but I also knew I deserved it and that there were NO EXCUSES and JUSTIFICATIONS ANYMORE..
And then JESUS SPOKE to me telling with an angelic voice 'Hans, there are two things you can do: commit suicide or start reading the Bible', because God knew I had NEVER read that book because it was all NONSENSE to me.
JESUS knew I had CONDEMNED MYSELF, and that's why He proposed two options, BECAUSE HE LOVES ME!
And when He spoke to me, all of a sudden I felt much better as if I was in heaven for a short while and the first thought that came up in my mind was 'THIS IS GOD!'
THAT was the moment I started to believe in God's existence and moments before that I was my own 'god'....and LOST FOREVER.
I am not saved by JESUS to burn a short while in His TRASH CAN, the lake of fire and then an eternal NON-EXISTENCE.
I am saved by JESUS from having to experience the consequences of my REBELLION against Him, which is an ETERNAL DETENTION in His SUPERNATURAL lake of fire with a SUPERNATURAL ANGELIC BODY.
Compared to Him we are MICROSCOPICALLY SMALL, so we can become angry at Him as much as we can be, but this won't IMPRESS Him.
And now you're telling 'Organic Robot' there is no eternal lake of fire for condemned human sinners and that this is love.
WHERE IS THE JUSTICE, RENEE?
You say you don't promote Annihilationism, but in fact you do, because you said 'I'm happy to show you why I believe the lost suffer the 2nd death bc man if not immortal without Jesus' (I'm happy to show you why I believe the lost suffer the 2nd death because man is not immortal without Jesus).
You and Luke sincitypreacher cooperate on this and the fact that he has become a flat earther doesn't bother you, even though you mock the flat earth truth in your heart, and what Buzz Aldrin says, the so called 2nd astronaut (astroNOT) who set foot on the moon, while the manned moon landings NEVER took place, is more important to you than what I say, your fellow saved believer in JESUS Christ, while Buzz Aldrin is a FREEMASON, because you know the flat earth TRUTH is not about eternal salvation.
But the question whether there is an ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE in which condemned humans will be PUNISHED FOREVER for their SATANISM and UNBELIEF is VERY MUCH about SALVATION, BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST DIDN'T DIE AND SHED HIS SINLESS BLOOD TO SAVE US FROM AN ETERNAL NOTHINGNESS.
He went this far because He doesn't want Satan to WIN again when God had no other option than to CONDEMN and KILL about SIX BILLION people during the Flood, after He had waited 120 YEARS to see if they would repent=change their mind.
But only Noah and his family believed in Him and got saved.
We're in the middle of a HUGE SPIRITUAL WAR!
And you, Renee, are NOT informing people about the Biblical TRUTH regarding eternal punishment/pain for the condemned.
On the contrary: you tell your viewers that the condemned humans will NO LONGER EXIST.
THAT IS A LIE!
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