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Powerful Heartbreak Demon Jezebel Spirit

Jezebel Spirit What Is A Jezebel? Powerful Heartbreak Demon Jezebel Spirit









Published on Dec 24, 2013
Jezebel Spirit What Is A Jezebel? Powerful Heartbreak Demon Jezebel Spirit

The name Jezebel came to be associated with false prophets, and further associated by the early 20th century with fallen or abandoned women. In Christian lore, a comparison to Jezebel suggested that a person was a pagan or an apostate masquerading as a servant of God. By manipulation and/or seduction, she misled the saints of God into sins of idolatry and sexual immorality. In particular, Jezebel has come to be associated with promiscuity. In modern usage, the name of Jezebel is sometimes used as a synonym for sexually promiscuous and sometimes controlling women. In his two-volume Guide to the Bible (1967 and 1969), Isaac Asimov describes Jezebel's last act: dressing in all her finery, make-up and jewelry, as deliberately symbolic, indicating her dignity, royal status and determination to go out of this life as a queen.

 


He will add a Knight
you are wrong about it not being able to be cast out. Bob Larson and chris lasala are two ministers of many who he done it on camera (YouTube them). But for further proof I have witnessed it myself because I actually prayer this demon out of someone once, and it was as wicked, and psychotic as they come but when the person fell back into sin the demon came back easily, as the Bible warns. Haven't seen her since...
ABRAW H
While Bob Larson has a lot of truth in his teachings, he tends to go against the bible's teachings. You aren't supposed to converse with a demon. And deliverance shouldn't be a spectator sport. 
He will add a Knight
that is an incorrect assumption because all true deliverance ministries, Bob Larson, SCOAN, Hungry Generation, Chris Lasala, to name a few, ALL converse with the demons as they are casting them out. This raises awareness to the tactics that are being used by the demon in their life to give them the awareness needed to the person to never let it happen again in the future. Also, this allows the minister to properly handle the situation because there are often MANY demons in any given person and this is why the minister will ask for their name. They don't always respond with the name of a single demon such as Jezebel or Leviathan but many times they will answer "Many, many!" The minister could not know how to accurately assess the situation without knowing this. Furthermore, you're not doing God any favors by telling others we shouldn't be conversing with demons as we are casting them out. You need to pray to God for discernment and ask Him to reveal the truth to you instead of making false assumptions. 
He will add a Knight
and yes deliverance SHOULD be watched by others. We as Christians need to make an open spectacle of satan and the forces of darkness in these last days to raise awareness so that more souls can be saved. Lying about this to others is no small crime and you need to repent.
TheOnlyOne123
Have you yourself been involved in casting out demons and deliverance ministry? Don't answer like you know then. 
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You automatically assume I have not, which makes you incorrect in your assumption. Indeed, I am no Larson or Lasala but I believe these ministries are true and Godly based upon my own experience in deliverance. 
fractally
+TheOnlyOne123 Y'all are batshit crazy. The only demons are in your hearts and minds. They are PART OF YOU. You project it outside of yourself, because you think it is inherently SINFUL... Accept it. It is part of your lizard brain heritage. It is what gives you energy and health. You cannot master what you REFUSE to acknowledge. Become the master of your lizard brain---you cannot cast it off. It is the deepest part of your brain.
PheonixYT
+fractally i hate you
PheonixYT
Divorce is not adultery
He will add a Knight
yes it can be... 
Deliverance Revolution
+He will add a Knight ...Ditto....you are right....many many times has King Jesus has slammed Jezebel and on some occassionally Ahab, her X husband, will join her and King Jesus will slam her too.
Dolphin named Kathy
+Deliverance Revolution what is your definition of a jezzebell? looks more like displacement to me again, why dont your intestines fall out and jezzebell man lick up his own blood on the floor, isnt that the curse you have the so called eastern star say in yiur incantations or initiation, women pls have nothing to do with these witches. . their day is coming
He will add a Knight
Jezebel is a demon that comes in through rejection and adultery and it twists a person's mind to hating God as well as being very manipulative, controlling, hateful, lustful, seductive, even murderous.  It's a very powerful demonic principality that ruins many lives.
Dolphin named Kathy
+He will add a Knight you know I hear all this stuff about women but what Ive seen is men. ..truly bent on destruction with the strength of 10 men very demonic
Dolphin named Kathy
+Dolphin named Kathy I dont think has any "thing" to do with jezzebell"
He will add a Knight
both men and women can take on demonic characteristics... we're all sinners.  stop being sexist and realize that satan is the enemy, not a human being with different body parts than your own SMH
He will add a Knight
whatever you say robocop... Call me ignorant all you want, you're clearly living it
He will add a Knight
you're such a buffoon..  no i'm not a feminist, I am advocate for BOTH men and women, and I expose the forces of darkness that comes against humanity... I don't think you even read the posts that I have  made, and if you did you're either crosseyed or delusional
John Olaoluwa
+He will add a Knight .....You said: "Jezebel is a demon that comes in through rejection and adultery and it twists a person's mind to hating God as well as being very manipulative, controlling, hateful, lustful, seductive, even murderous.  It's a very powerful demonic principality that ruins many lives." This is..... Probably the best definition of Jezebel. While it is mostly manifested through women, but men carry it, too. The men are usually seductive in words and deeds.
He will add a Knight
Thank you!  I've had the unfortunate experience of dealing with it firsthand...
John Olaoluwa
+He will add a Knight No wonder. You gave a perfect definition, bro. I have studied and observed it in almost every congregation I have been opportune to fellowship. What is very sad is that most minsters don't see it.
He will add a Knight
I hear you there...  Actually dealing with this demon possessing a close friend is what led me to the gospel in 2014 and I became saved that May.  I actually performed deliverance on the girl and the demon fled and I witnessed her go from being completely psychotic to of a peaceful, sound mind but the demon came back to her after about three days and she became erratic, fully possessed again and not long after that she fled from me and I never saw her again.  The Lord used the situation to wake me up to the gospel but I always get sad thinking about it because I can only imagine what kind of treachery this demon has gotten her into since...  Scary to think about
John Olaoluwa
+He will add a Knight I feel sad for that lady. Why I like this video is because the author said something MANY overlook, the victim has to be SHOCKED into repentance. Without genuine repentance, I don't believe there can be true deliverance.
He will add a Knight
Yea I think that was the problem with this situation.  In the Bible Jesus talks about the house being well swept and the unclean spirit goes to and fro about the Earth and comes back, I forget the exact verse but what I know is that she didn't get filled with the Holy Spirit and the demon had room to enter in again as soon as she started sinning.  She had the understanding to know she was freed from a demon and that she didn't want anything to do with it again, but once the demon came back she was cast under such a strong delusion it was like the original deliverance never existed.
John Olaoluwa
+He will add a Knight Matthew 12:43  When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.  The temple (soul) has to be cleansed first - genuine repentance. John 2:15.
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aye indeed, I bare witness to this biblical truth firsthand
john hurren
+ABRAW H Correct.
Nicholas Robinson
+PheonixArmy as a Christian your not allowed to get divorced. The scripture you using is Jesus talking about ending an engagement.
He will add a Knight
You're allowed to divorce if the grounds is adultery, according to the law of Moses.
Nicholas Robinson
+He will add a Knight​ Sorry mate your not. As I said, that grounds for divorce is only for breaking off an engagement. Being engaged was as good as being married. Vows were vows. I'll tell you what God showed me in a revelation. When Jesus says that a man may not divorce his wife for anything but for adultery. The actual real and original word was not adultery but fornication. There is a world of difference. Adultery is when a person who is married has sex outside of that marriage with someone thats not their spouse. Fornication is an unmarried person having sex. This is why its only to break off the engagement. Now if we use other scriptures to prove this... When the women caught in adultery was going to be stonned to death why didn't Jesus just say, "come on chaps, just give her a certificate of divorce as you know moses said you can, there is no need to stone her?" Because she was actually married. And the law said she was to be stonned to death. Jesus was the word made flesh and that included the law. He could not go against this law. Jesus knew this women was terrified and had already repented. So the only thing He could do was to bring the situation from a legalistic one, to one of conscience. Yes they were right to ask this but they were not fit to be her judge. Did He tell her to divorce? No He sent her home. Another is when Joseph found out Mary was pregnant. He thought she had committed fornication in the engagement and still had to get a divorce. The bible tells us "even though they were not yet married nor living together". He still needed a divorce to break off the engagement. Now you see why if you get married and then divorced then married again you are an adulterer. You see that little bit of paper that says your legally divorced means no such thing to God. To God it is legal evidence you have not forgiven. And if you don't forgive others God won't forgive you. Or look at it like this.. You are as only forgiven by God as much as you forgive others. Thats scriptually sound advice. So because your not divorced you second marriage is null envoid. You are no better than a person having an affair outside of marriage. 
John Olaoluwa
Oh yes!! That is the truth.
Nicholas Robinson
+John Olaoluwa Ha brother the truth makes us smile and we know we are on very safe ground. 
He will add a Knight
It doesn't matter which way you look at it.  Adultery is biblically defined simply as "sexual immorality," it's not strictly having sex outside of marriage.  Adultery and fornication can literally be the same exact thing.  Fornication is sexual immorality.  Fornication is adultery.  Jesus told us we commit adultery merely by lusting after another person.  We lust, we commit adultery.  We lust, we commit sexual immorality.  It's all the same bucket.  If you're married and you fornicate with another person, you're committing adultery.  If your wife fornicates with another person, she's committing adultery.  Either way, according to the law of Moses, this is grounds for divorce.  It's very simple; not complicated one bit.
He will add a Knight
Matthew 5:32 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. The words of Jesus are in perfect harmony with the law of Moses.  It's perfectly acceptable by God to divorce in the case of adultery... which is defined by committing fornication, sex with another person.  You cannot deny scripture. 
John Olaoluwa
+He will add a Knight Look, no one here wants to argue. I guess most of us have gone beyond that childish act of arguing against the truth - it leads nowhere and you can't win. Unfortunately, because many have fallen short of God's standard and conscience is not allowing them to rest, they will look for all sorts of excuses to justify the actions of the flesh - unforgiveness and lusts. Did you try to listen to David Pawson's teaching on the subject (which I posted)? If you truly desire to abide by the truth, go and listen to it. Otherwise, I have nothing against you and wish you well.
Nicholas Robinson
+He will add a Knight what a cop out. no its not. if your not reading a king james then no wonder your in trouble. How the hell did you come to that conclusion from the scriptures i showed you. If you found the scriptures and read them then you know what the bible says and its definitely not what you say. If you get a bit of paper and draw a line down the middle and title the top of one side "what my Jesus says". Then on the top of the other side write "what the Jesus of the bible says". Then in the "my Jesus section" write what you think jesus says on sex before marriage, on adultery, on loosing salvation etc Then find what he says in the bible and write that in the other section. I guarantee you will have two completely different christs. one of your own making that is easy to follow and agrees with you flesh over sin and the other a Holy God that condemns you. There are only two types of people in this world. Those that are dead in sin and those that are dead too sin.
Nicholas Robinson
+He will add a Knight adultery and fornication are not the same thing. go get a definition from a dictionary. This is why they are treated different in the bible. Stop giving your flesh room to sin.
Nicholas Robinson
+He will add a Knight no its not acceptable for God to allow a married couple to divorce. Fornication is a sin that will send you to hell like adultery or robbing or being gay or striaght and committing fornication. But there is no divorce once married. This is why they were going to stine that women. How can you not see this.
He will add a Knight
I know how dangerous fornication is, probably more so than most people.  Did I deny that?  No, I did not.  What I clarified is that if your spouse cheats, God allows you to divorce, according to the law of Moses.  What don't you get about this?  Also, Revelation 2 concerning fornication.
He will add a Knight
Deuteronomy 24:  When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. 2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. 3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; 4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. 5 When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.
He will add a Knight
God allows divorce in the case of adultery.  I really can't spell it out for you any clearer than the Bible does itself.
Nicholas Robinson
+He will add a Knight So if that scripture is not talking about breaking off an engagement but it is as you wrongly presume, please tell me why they were going to stone that women to death that they caught in adultery? Please also tell me that if it is for actual marriage (divorce that is in those scriptures you gave) then why did Joseph need a certificate of divorce for Mary even though they were not married? Wht does God say that someone that is divorced is like a person wearing the blood stained garments of a murdered victim? Why does God say he hates divorce yet you day He allows it? Why does it day in 1Co 7:39 A wife is bound by law for as long as her husband lives; but if the husband is dead, she is free to be married to whomever she desires, only in the Lord. Try please just try to answer my questions and make sure your answers don't contridict other scriptures. Otherwise they are wrong. You knpw how dangerous Fornication is you should also see that fornication is not adultery. Once you understand this the bible does not contridict itself. 
Nicholas Robinson
+He will add a Knight So if that scripture is not talking about breaking off an engagement but it is as you wrongly presume, please tell me why they were going to stone that women to death that they caught in adultery? Please also tell me that if it is for actual marriage (divorce that is in those scriptures you gave) then why did Joseph need a certificate of divorce for Mary even though they were not married? Wht does God say that someone that is divorced is like a person wearing the blood stained garments of a murdered victim? Why does God say he hates divorce yet you day He allows it? Why does it day in 1Co 7:39 A wife is bound by law for as long as her husband lives; but if the husband is dead, she is free to be married to whomever she desires, only in the Lord. Try please just try to answer my questions and make sure your answers don't contridict other scriptures. Otherwise they are wrong. You knpw how dangerous Fornication is you should also see that fornication is not adultery. Once you understand this the bible does not contridict itself. 
Nicholas Robinson
+He will add a Knight​ Fornication is a person having sex thats not married. Adultery is a person having sex that is married but having sex with a person they are not married too. Can you understand that? I have to ram this home to prove you are wrong so you stop spreading satans lies in the bride of christ. Your not the only one doing this. 
He will add a Knight
Whatever you say buddy.  Good luck.
Nicholas Robinson
+He will add a Knight Remain in tjat sin. You've no excuse bro. Also Jesus said that it is very bad for a person to cause another to sin. for it is better that a millstone be tied around his neck and he is thrown into the sea. If you cintinue to propagate this sin You are causing others to sin in this same way. Just think about it please. Your refusal to even see the truth shows the rebellion in your heart about this particular area of your life. This is not opinion I know you can't get out of this so you are ignoring me. Its very clear in the bible. If I was not a Christiany I would leave you alone but because I am I have to adminish a brother out of live. unfortunately, this type of love is hated by the world because it stands for the truth. Don't cause others to sin by telling them lies about the bible. If they believe you they think they are living according to the word of God even though they have divorced. Maybe as you believed another. Hope you see the truth on this matter.
John Olaoluwa
+He will add a Knight "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." Matthew 12:36 If I may add: "Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment." Ecclesiastes 11:9 and brother, Proverbs 29:1 says: "Whoever remains stiff-necked after many rebukes will suddenly be destroyed--without remedy." We love you and tell you the truth. Think on these things and pray. God bless you.
He will add a Knight
God bless you too brother but his rebuke is completely ridiculous and you know it.
He will add a Knight
He doesn't have the discernment to even understand what the law of Moses, nor Jesus Christ, said concerning divorce. It's very simply and I really don't feel like debating on it anymore.  It's so blatantly simple....
John Olaoluwa
+He will add a Knight Brother, we don't always get it right, but we must also recognise when our flesh is at war with the truth of the Spirit. Jesus made a strong statement about Moses, the law and OT in general when He said: "Destroy this temple and I will raise it again in three days" (John 2:19, Mark 14:58). For this statement, they killed/murdered Him, but it was the truth. They had a veil over their eyes. Sadly, this veil is still covering the Church today. Paul, 2000 years ago, explained the mysteries of a man and his wife and then added, "I speak concerning Christ and His church". That is strong and disturbing! Why? Put it on context of what you have come to believe about divorce and remarriage. Does divorce still sounds cool to you? Let me put it this way: Have you never done anything wrong since you gave your life to Christ? Such as listed by Paul in Galatians 5:19-21. Do you know how abominable these things are to Christ/God? Now, put yourself in the place of that sinner (adulterer) in the sight of Husband of your soul (Christ) - did He put you away? What did He do? Did He nor run after you as Hosea ran after Gomer and appealed to you to repent and after you repented He cleansed and embraced you as His beloved? You may say the sin of adultery is the greatest sin. Really? What about murder (hatred inclusive)? Or making decisions that favour mammon over God (Exodus 20:3)? Remember, if you break just ONE law, you are guilty of the rest as well. For example, if you told a lie (Exodus 20:16), you are as guilty as the one who worships Satan (Exodus 20:4). This is why He COMMANDED the man to love his wife, because He knows the wife can easily be discarded by the man. True love will cover a multitude of sins, just Christ's robe of righteousness covers us. Christ and us is the same thing with a man and his wife, my brother. If you fail to practice this, you are not in Him. It is a harsh truth, but this is His requirement. Many men when they become aware that their wives have been unfaithful, the first thing they think of is divorce, which is a cover up of their true feeling for the woman. The reality was that the unfaithfulness is just an excuse for what they really wanted to do but never had the chance. They may have actually been covetous of another woman. So, before we cast a stone, let us think of our own hearts first and ask: "Where would I be without the grace of God?" Shalom! (meaning - the may the peace, harmony, wholeness, completeness, prosperity, welfare, tranquility and all the goodness of God be with you - Amen!)
He will add a Knight
I hear you brother and I understand fully what you are saying.  But it still goes back to what God allows.  God allows divorce ONLY in the case of adultery.  I firmly believe that if a woman cheats by fornicating with another man, this is grounds for divorce, according to the law of Moses.  Does that mean someone should run to the courts and get the papers to file divorce the very moment their spouse cheats?  No, not at all.  They may repent and seek forgiveness of both the Lord and their spouse.  But what if it's continual?  The person just keeps on fornicating with other people and simply doesn't stop because they have such a stronghold with the Jezebel spirit.  Then absolutely yes, it is perfectly acceptable to divorce, and the Bible clearly declares this, on multiple occasions. I am currently single and have been for two years.  My previous girlfriend was like a wife to me, even though we never officially married, however she had the Jezebel spirit, she was an adulteress before and after I met her.  She cheated multiple times and eventually left and I haven't seen her for nearly two years.  Does this mean I should just live out a single life for the rest of my life, or risk committing adultery?  Or in likewise, any married man in the same situation?  Absolutely not.  I'm not casting stones, nor should any man cast stones at me.
John Olaoluwa
+He will add a Knight No, no one is casting stones at you here. I believe it is an exploration of the truth. When we know the truth, then we would experience true freedom, too. I did perceived that you had that experience from the beginning. However, you made a strong statement about your estate - you were NEVER married. No matter how long (or short) you live together, you were never married meant just that. Time is not the certificate of marriage. Fornication is different from adultery. Fornication is two UNMARRIED people sleeping together and adultery is two married people sleeping together. In marriage, there is a declaration and there are certain rights, which are AUTOMATICALLY acquired by the partners, whereas this is not so with cohabitants. Even with modern changes, they are still not the same. You should be grateful to God for helping you get rid of the woman, because you were living in sin. And if you had died in that scenario, do you think God would say, "At least, he asked Me into his life"? No, I don't think so. This is a public forum, I would rather not say some things, but you should be very grateful and make Christ your priority and He will bring a genuinely loving woman into your life. And when He does, don't repeat the old style of the world by "living in sin". Shalom!
He will add a Knight
Oh believe me when I say He is certainly a priority. True freedom does come through repentance.
John Olaoluwa
+He will add a Knight Amen!
He will add a Knight
How was I being inaccurate? Repentance is the application of the Biblical truth that we are sinners and need to turn from our wickedness and to God. I see nothing inaccurate about what I said.-
He will add a Knight
I still stand by what I said and yes they are separate things but one comes through the other. Deliverance comes through repentance. God can deliver anyone He chooses but typically what we see in the church is people being delivered as they repent. Those who refuse to repent or preach against repentance always are loaded up with demons.
John Olaoluwa
+SuperTRev & +He will add a Knight ..... I believe both of you are right. You see, this is why we should be having very good Bible Studies, not the "food" that is polluted by idols of Jezebel and Balaam that is often sold at the pulpits today. Proper bible study! Yes, there is usually a complete deliverance after repentance at salvation. But most are ignorant (lack of knowledge) and the enemy comes and make people sin, then brings back all or so many old bondages, usually through the works of the flesh - pride of life, lust of the flesh and lust of the eyes. At a proper Bible Study, these things would be properly shared and ALL would be edified and HEAVILY armed with knowledge that overcomes! May God deliver His people. Amen!
He will add a Knight
+John Olaoluwa. John I know what you mean because when I was first saved I repented for the first time and the Lord delivered me of a lot of things, but after a while I fell back into some sins and I could feel the enemy gaining a stronghold back into my life, but I have been fighting the good fight and I know I am on track.
He will add a Knight
The gospel speaks for itself.
He will add a Knight
Repentance isn't a work. This is a false gospel that plagues the internet. Repenting is crucial in order to attain salvation. Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid. Sinning is what causes our hearts to be turned to that of the enemy, whereas repenting is what allows us to be more holy. You can't get away with sin in this life without receiving curses for doing so. Deuteronomy is pretty clear about this. But if we sin we have an advocate with the Father, and His name is Jesus. We have to stop sinning and fight the good fight, which is the fight for our very souls. Jesus told us if we love Him then we obey Him by keeping His commandments, the most important being the commandment of love. But following the other commandments is how we keep this commandment. Our sinful nature still exists until the day we are taken up, but we have to "overcome" it as Jesus puts it in Revelation. We have to fight against our sinful nature. This is what it means to repent: Turn from sin and to God. You can't serve God and the devil and if you are lost in sin you are willfully obeying the devil; you can say you believe in Jesus all day but if you are not resisting the devil then you are not obeying Jesus.
John Olaoluwa
+SuperTRev +He will add a Knight, while I don't want to get into too much apologetics and exegesis, the Bible is plainly seen in the texts. Acts 3:19 declares "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord" (AKJV). How can someone experience a refreshing from the Presence of the Lord (salvation) without turning to Him? Anyone turning to the Lord is turning away from something, because you cannot serve two masters! It's better if we don't complicate the Gospel. However, beyond that, we ALL (if not, most of us), did turn back to some of those things we left behind, through giving in to at least one of the THREE sins (pride, lust of the eyes and flesh). Yet, God understands this, and because we are now His, His Spirit convicts and makes us see those things easily. Once we humble ourselves (refusal usually results into humiliation), we get into repentance (turn back to God). There is no point in complicating this process. Just that, unfortunately, most believers don't want to get humble and acknowledge the wrong - typical Adamic nature. God is CREATING that NEW man from us; this is what we know as the MATURING son, that will no more be a servant. Unfortunately, the vast majority of believers are taught to be servants and not sons! Sad. They will never be greater than John the Baptist.
John Olaoluwa
+SuperTRev Friend, I repeat again, am not interested in apologetics and exegesis. A person can't turn to Someone he doesn't know about or believe in; so, all these words are just semantics. Just go and ask Ruth about Moab and their gods and why she followed Naomi. Keep the Gospel simple. How can someone turn from idols and works of the flesh without believing in the Person he's turning to? Sorry, your stance is just making an argument out of nothing, it is not necessary to trivialise the simplicity of the Gospel. I am yet to see someone turn to God when he doesn't believe in Him. Look, there are more important things to dig into from Scriptures.
John Olaoluwa
+SuperTRev This will be my last take on this matter. You are TWISTING my words. I never said there are more important things than the Gospel. Revelation 14 verses 6 & 7 summarizes the Gospel. Combine that with John 1 vs 12. A person cannot turn to God without believing in Him. You're just complicating the simplicity of the Gospel and confusing people along the way.
Andy Shahan
+He will add a Knight - So have I. And I agree, your summary nailed it.
Andy Shahan
+He will add a Knight - You are correct. As you posted already; Deuteronomy 24 (KJV) 24 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. Matthew 19:7-9 (KJV) 7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8 He (Jesus) saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. There it is, plain as day, in black & white, clear as crystal.
Andy Shahan
+fractally - You don't believe in the Bible then? Because Jesus and His disciples were casting demons out all over the place.
Joseph Alan
+Nicholas Robinson That is not a true statement. Deuteronomy 24:1-4 still applies, whether you are Christian or not. God does not change. Keep studying to show yourself approved unto God.
John Olaoluwa
+Joseph Alan .... What about Jesus's comment on this law in Matthew 19:8? Ignore it? Then should we leave out Matthew 18:35 altogether?
Joseph Alan
+Nicholas Robinson You must learn the difference between apoluo and apostasia. You also missed the pertinent facts from the scriptures about the woman caught in the act of adultery. If you have a revelation and it is contrary to scripture, forget it; it's coming from a deceiving spirit. Also, adultery for a man occurs when he has sex with another man's wife. That event terminates the wife's marriage, as she is now defiled with respect to her former husband. Adultery for a woman occurs when she has sex with anyone other than her husband. There are different rules because the woman was made for the man, but man was not made for the woman, but for God.
Joseph Alan
+He will add a Knight A man can divorce his wife if he finds anything "unclean" about her that causes him to hate her. Deuteronomy 24:1-4.
John Olaoluwa
+Joseph Alan I'm trying to wrap my understanding to your comments. So, you mean there is no place for FORGIVENESS when adultery has been committed? Or the offended party is not supposed to forgive and hence can be justified if he decides to divorce? Is adultery greater than the rejection of God through Christ?
Joseph Alan
+He will add a Knight Adultery is very different from sexual inmorality. Sexual immorality is not the same as fornication. KJV inproperly translates porneo as fornication. Fornication is any of the prohibited sexual sins. e.g. sex with relatives, sex with others of the same sex, beastiality. Porneo is sexual immorality, which is using sex as a means of gratifying the flesh with no intention of remaining joined together as husband and wife.
Joseph Alan
+John Olaoluwa (Brother John) I think you mean you're having trouble with the scripture. It is not correctly taught in many churches, because many churches are led by serpents who are trying to lead the flock into abominations. But to recap, if a man's wife is unfaithful to him, he should not take her back as his wife. She has become defiled with respect to him, and it is an abomination before the Lord for him to be joined to her again after she has become defiled. In the old testament they stoned adulterers, so taking the woman back was not an option, as necrophelia was also prohibited. This does not mean you cannot forgive the unfaithful wife. She just can't be your wife any longer. Meditate on Deuteronomy 24:1-4 and the Lord will make it clear to you.
John Olaoluwa
+Joseph Alan No, I'm not having any trouble understanding it and to an extent, I don't belong (nor subject my headship authority) to the so-called churches led by "serpents". While some may be serpents, some are genuine "servants" of God as well...... that is not the main issue here. When Jesus told the woman caught in the act of adultery, "Go and sin no more", it meant some of her sins are still there and hence cannot be rejoined to her husband? If Jesus speaks over an individual that "Your sins have been forgiven", some tiny fragments will remain and hence disqualify the person? Or once the sin has been forgiven is a COMPLETELY cleaned slate? We are talking of God's forgiveness not the human version that has lingering emotions, isn't it? Please educate me.
Joseph Alan
+John Olaoluwa (Brother John) Jesus told her not to sin anymore. He did not tell her to go back to her former husband. That marriage ended when she committed adultery. If there had been two witnesses that caught both her and her lover in the act of adultery, the adulterers would have both been stoned. Jesus was not a witness so he could not accuse her. There should have been a man in the custody of the leaders as well as the woman. Jesus no doubt noticed this and saw this was a setup to tempt him into deviating from the law.
Joseph Alan
+John Olaoluwa (Brother John) Jesus told her not to sin anymore. He did not tell her to go back to her former husband. That marriage ended when she committed adultery. If there had been two witnesses that caught both her and her lover in the act of adultery, the adulterers would have both been stoned. Jesus was not a witness so he could not accuse her. There should have been a man in the custody of the leaders as well as the woman. Jesus no doubt noticed this and saw this was a setup to tempt him into deviating from the law.
John Olaoluwa
+Joseph Alan May I ask you a plain question before I comment further? Are you a remarried man?
He will add a Knight
Joseph Alan you're not taking into account one important concept:  repentance.  There's nothing wrong with a husband keeping an adulteress woman his wife if she repents.  If she repents and becomes covered by the blood of Jesus she is no longer unclean.  God commanded his prophet Hosea to take a wife "of whoredoms" so he did with Gomer but she ended up having children with other men.  Yet Hosea was faithful despite this and even though she left him, she ended up leaving to be with another man.  Eventually she became a slave but Hosea bought her out of slavery to take her again as his wife, despite her living an adulteress lifestyle.  This was in COMPLETE obedience to the word of the Lord.  And so you now stand corrected.  Read the book of Hosea.  Because it proves what you are saying wrong.  BUT, that all said, what's important here is repentance.  NOT the sin, it's the act of repentance.  An adulterer or adulteress doesn't have to remain as so.  They can repent and be cleansed and freed from this forever.  It's really that simple.  That's what Jesus does.
John Olaoluwa
+He will add a Knight .... Thanks for that reference of Hosea & Gomer. And it was BEFORE the advent of Christ. +Joseph Alan ..... Ever read that portion of the Bible well, that Gomer did not even appreciate the gesture of forgiveness? God's forgiveness is COMPREHENSIVE - He will have mercy and not sacrifice (Matthew 12:7). I think you are still comparing the Blood of the Lamb with those of goats and sheep. The Blood of the Son of God is the PERFECT sacrifice for ANY sin. You know, in medicine there are some chemicals that knockout bacteria & viruses such as ozone. The Blood of the Lamb is much more powerful. There is no sin that is greater than the rejection of Christ - NONE. It's the worst sin that a man can commit (John 3:36).
He will add a Knight
I realize it was hundreds of years before Christ. 
Joseph Alan
+John Olaoluwa (Brother John) No.
Joseph Alan
+He will add a Knight Deuteronomy 24:1-4 states otherwise. God does not change. He said so Himself. If it was an abomination then, it is am abomination now. Just like homosexuality, beastiality, unjust weights and measures, etc. I am not your judge, just the messenger.
Joseph Alan
+He will add a Knight After Gomer was unfaithful, is there any record of Hosea sleeping with her again? If Gomer had been caught in the act of adultery, she and her lover would have been stoned. Obviously she was not. The custom of "putting away" a wife was employed when adultery was strongly suspected and the requisite two witnesses were not present. The New Testament word for "putting away" is "apoluo." It is not the same as divorce; that is "apostasia." Study the Greek texts and you will find that Jesus' teachings are in full accord with the Law of Moses. The KJV makes a mistranslation that has caused great confusion about divorce and remarriage.
Joseph Alan
+He will add a Knight When did Hosea have sex with Gomer after she committed adultery? Tell us, oh verbose one.
He will add a Knight
It doesn't matter whether or not they had sex.  The fact is the Bible tells us clear as day that he bought her back and re-established her as his wife.
John Olaoluwa
+Joseph Alan You are simply picking and choosing what suits you, buddy. To be honest with you, I have a dislike when people conclude that the KJV translators made mistakes. Ok, let us look at YOUR chosen words. apoluō ap-ol-oo'-o From G575 and G3089; to free fully, that is, (literally) relieve, release, dismiss (reflexively depart), or (figuratively) let die, pardon, or (specifically) divorce: - (let) depart, dismiss, divorce, forgive, let go, loose, put (send) away, release, set at liberty. Jesus was specific as what He was talking about and the translators got it very right. Matthew 5:32 "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery." The words "put away" and "divorced" used by Jesus are the same in Greek in this verse, but translated to English slightly different. ===== I ask you, in the matter of Hosea & Gomer, was God not trying to make a statement to the house of Israel about their adultery (whoring)? Did God stop loving and forgiving their adultery? If God did not want Hosea to relate with Gomer as her husband would He not have mentioned it? Btw, did you read chapter three of that same Book? What happened there? (ERV) Then the LORD said to me again, "Gomer has many lovers, but you must continue loving her. Do this because it is an example of the LORD'S love for Israel. He continues to love them, but they continue to turn to other gods, and they love to eat those raisin cakes." (ISV) Then the LORD told me: "Go love your wife again, even though she is being loved by another and is committing adultery. Love her the same way the LORD loves the people of Israel, even though they look to other gods and love raisin cakes." Does this verse not STRONGLY contradict your arguments? And this is the Old Testament! Just like David, some people were enjoying GRACE in the OT before the advent of Christ. This is what was rightly expressed in this verse.
Sen Keli
+John Olaoluwa (Brother John) I was reading about Jehu and how he destroyed all of Ahab's children and how he caused Jezebel's death. That's how I ended up here. I'm glad I did because I've learnt a lot from the scriptures all of you quoted. Thank you

holymosesjew
According to you Jezebel seeks out power and authority, headship, ruler ship. Therefore you should not be looking for this spirit in just women Jezebel would not be seeking after women so much unless they are a prophetess or in leadership position. Therefore, this spirit will be seen more in husbands than wives because this is where Jezebel can do the most damage, because they are the heads the authority in the home. This is one of the reasons why in the last days men will give heed to seducing spirits because they have not identified who Jezebel is in themselves. The world has been taught to look for Jezebel in women instead of men and I believe this is one of Jezebel's biggest secrets, to get us to believe it is in one place but actually in another. Jezebel always attack men first through control and manipulation. Jezebel could not bring a man down unless it is already ruling and controlling his life. Jezebel can easily enter a man through lust and his words. 
N Louise
Jezebel spirit can take down a man through a lie, too. One particular way, they can attempt to seduce the head of a men's ministry, then when questioned and rejected by him instead and put in her place, she can write a letter full of lies to the church pastor against the person and take out an entire ministry. Not all men taken out by a Jezebel are weak or guilty of the crime (slander).
holymosesjew
+N Louise He is also wrong about Jezebel hating men, it is a male spirit, but it hates women, because of Genius 3:15-18. Narcissism is Jezebel and is found more in men than women. Any woman that has been in a relationship with a Narcissist will tell you he showed her hatred not love, because he was possessed with Jezebel.
holymosesjew
+N Louise Satan is the male spirit that is greedy for power and control to take over God's kingdom, and he teaches and seduces men to be like him, and he seduces men with this lust for power and control. Men are more greedy for wealth, power and control so that greed opens the door for Jezebel to possess them.
N Louise
I am seeing this happen right now with a woman at my church. She took out the men's ministry a couple weeks ago, headed by my husband. When confronted by my husband with her antics over these past several months, she got even sending a slanderous letter against my husband to the Pastor, and now not only is the men's ministry done, but he was interrogated and told to leave our church of 10 years, behind a lie.
Veronica Hollie
+N Louise I'm sorry to hear that but you both are probably better off not being a part of a church like that. She did you a favor when you look at it.
N Louise
Veronica, you are absolutely right. Were it anything short of how drastic the situation is, my husband would have never left the church. Now we can begin to really serve the Lord and break away from the organized church system. Life is good now. God bless.
FenderSchonJPX
Narcissism in the past has been a typically masculine disorder, it's basically masculinity taken to a pathological extreme.  However, Histrionic and Borderline personalities are far more prevalent in the female gender.  The Jezebel spirit is a histrionic spirit more than a narcissistic spirit.  Baal or Lucifer himself were the original narcissists.  Jezebel is the female aspect of the demonic leadership.  Satan copies God in many many ways. You could say Satan is the evil narcissistic counterpart to God the Father and Jezebel is the evil Histrionic counterpart to the Holy Spirit.  They both play similar roles in the lives and affairs of men as do God and the Holy Spirit, just obviously on the evil side. The true jezebel spirit will almost always manifest in a female host not a male host.
N Louise
I do know the difference between Histrionic behavior and someone that is full of the devil trying to bed other peoples husbands for sport. This one in particular is doing this for sport. Histrionic is more attention seeking, but yeah, I can see where they both can end up doing the same shinnaigans. A histrionic sleeps with her best friends husband, then wonders why the best friend won't forgive her because it was only one time and she was caught up in the moment. The person I was referring to viciously goes after men that won't do it and will stop at nothing to get her way. Then when confronted, she pulls a Potiphars' wife number on them.
holymosesjew
+FenderSchonJPX True , Jezebel masquerades as a Narcissist, however it is a male seducing spirit, not female. Women are not after power and control more than men. Men are in control and leadership, women are the weaker vessels, Jezebel targets and does his most and greatest damage through ridership, leadership, men . The stronger vessel, not the weaker one so much. The Bible says if you bind the stronger vessel, you will be able to destroy the the whole family. Jezebel first destroys the head to destroy the body/family. Why target the body, if the head controls?
N Louise
IF the Jezebel spirit is a male, can it enter a female?
holymosesjew
+N Louise Yes it can. You will know she is infected by Jezebel if she is a bully, and is manipulative, controlling and plays mind games.
N Louise
Thank you. Yes we are dealing with one. We have known this person almost 10 years and the last 2 years she has turned into someone/something completely different.

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